Vance, Walz, and the VP Debate; Project 2025 Revisited; and The Convocation Unscripted’s Road Show [S1E11]
Join us on the road in Greensboro (10/13) and Tempe (10/20).
In this episode of The Convocation Unscripted, Kristin Du Mez sits in the host chair for a conversation with Diana Butler Bass, Jemar Tisby, and Robert P. Jones. We reflect on the recent vice presidential debate, possibly the last debate of the election season. Beyond the performances, we talk about what the debate revealed about the deeper stakes for democracy: outright lies in a post-truth political world, Vance’s refusal to say Trump lost the 2020 election and his admission that he would not have protected the Constitution the way Mike Pence did in 2021, and the dangers of a “normal” sounding debate in these abnormal times.
We wrap the session with a conversation about the connections between the white evangelical “theo bros” and Christian nationalist vision of Project 2025. The team also announce the first two stops on The Convocation Unscripted’s “Faith and Democracy Tour,” inviting listeners to join us in person at First Baptist Church in Greensboro, NC on October 13th at 6pm ET and Dayspring United Methodist Church in Tempe, AZ on October 20th at 5pm MST.
Additional tour dates will be announced soon—bookmark this page, where we’ll add them as they are confirmed.
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That was a great live broadcast, I also like watching the four of your interact and your expressions. Thank you all so much for the hard work you are doing and am grateful to each one of you. I hope you know how much your work means to us. Nothing goes unnoticed.
Excellent!